England Finally Post a Win

By Daniel Andruczyk

The last round of the 4 Nations was played out last weekend. Australia fielded a team with a few news players getting a run while the Poms finally got to post a win on the board. The final now moves to Brisbane and will be held between the Kangaroos and Kiwis. In France the next round was played out and also some results from South Africa.

France – Elite 1

In round 6 over the weekend the usual suspects won their matches with the table not changing much. Carpentras beat St Gaudens/Toulouse 50-6, Limoux had a close win over Carcassonne, Lezignan defeated UTC 30-12 Avignion had a big win over Villeneuve 46-16 and Pia thumped Montpellier 56-18. The table stands as:

Team P W D L B PD Pt
1 Lezignan 6 6 0 0 0 182 18
2 Pia 6 5 0 1 0 131 0
3 Carpentras 6 4 1 1 0 66 0
4 Villeneuve 6 3 0 3 0 -29 0
5 Limoux 5 3 0 2 0 1 0
6 Carcassonne 6 2 0 4 0 -10 0
7 Avignion 6 2 0 4 0 -58 0
8 UTC 5 1 1 3 0 -34 0
9 Montpellier 6 1 0 5 0 -94 0
10 St Gaudens/Toulouse 6 1 0 5 0 -155 0

South Africa

In South Africa, round 8 in the Eastern Eagles was played. Kempton beat the Bears B 36-22, St Helens beat Elsburg 38-11, Bears A thrashed Germiston 76-0 and the ERP Falcons had the Bye. The table stands as:

Team P W D L B PD PT
1 Bears A 6 5 0 0 1 213 10
2 ERP 8 5 0 1 2 80 10
3 St Helens 7 4 0 2 1 60 8
4 Kempton 7 3 0 3 1 -34 6
5 Bears B 7 2 0 4 1 -28 4
6 Elsburg 7 1 0 5 1 -75 4
7 Germiston 7 0 0 6 1 -218 2

4 Nations

In the 4 Nations the last round games of the tournament were played out. These were some of the closest and best games of the tournament I felt. Australia though leading all the way had to work hard for their win over the Kiwis 34-20 while England had their first win over the Kumuls 36-10. The final table is:

Team P W D L B PD Pt
1 Australia 3 3 0 0 0 66 6
2 New Zealand 3 2 0 1 0 62 4
3 England 3 1 0 2 0 -8 2
4 Papua New Guinea 3 0 0 3 0 -122 0

The 4 Nations final will be played by the Kiwis and Kangaroos in Brisbane this weekend.

Atlantic Cup

The Atlantic Cup is getting closer and closer, its only a week till kick off now and all the teams are getting ready. The Canadians have announced their squad and the USA tomahawks are in training with frequent twitter updated from USA Rugby League boss David Niu on twitter that the players are doing well. Remember that Rugby League International Scores will be there covering the match. There will be blogs and articles and films of the match as well possible commentary on the HKC radio. The We Are Rugby website will also be showing the Atlantic Cup matches live.

Disrespect

So with the 4 Nations coming to the end there have been some odd calls from the Australian media recently. Manly that the format should be scrapped, that the International game is in disarray etc… once again a whole lot of rubbish, considering how many international tournaments and teams have been playing this year its amazing seeing the insular way they look at the sport. An interesting articles by Tone Hannan talked about how Rugby Union, despite how badly many of those teams do against the All Blacks are never negative and saying that the international game is dyeing. In fact they push the sport more. It made me think why that is, and I feel that its because they at least have a couple more tournaments that all the major nations participate in. There you have not only the Try-nations but also the 6 Nations where teams played each other before the end of year tours. So you have teams not being beaten by the usual suspects but also getting to play many other teams. In fact there has been talk in the past about the tri-nations going to 4 with Argentina coming into the fold.

So for Rugby League what would be my solution? Rather than it getting scaled back I would expand the 4 nations to a 6 Nations tournament. I would rename it the RLIF Cup to start to advertise and promote out governing body, just as in soccer you seen to get FIFA and UEFA put in front or after every single tournament! How would such a tournament work? Well it would be in the general context of a 4 year cycle. In the first two years there would be the regional championship qualifiers and finals. This gives all teams in that region a chance to play each other in a meaningful tournament and go onto a pan-regional tournaments outside of the world cup, like the Confederations Cup in Soccer.

At the moment I have three regions in mind, Europe (Middle east would come under this), The Pacific and Atlantic. You then have in the third year of the cycle the RLIF cup and along side it a secondary one 4 nations involved which I would resurrect the Federation Shield. So the two finalists from the European and Pacific Cups would get entry into the 6 Nations (RLIF Cup) directly then the 3rd placed teams (the winners of the 3/4 playoff) will have a 3 way qualifying tournament with the winner of the Atlantic Cup for the last two places of the RLIF Cup.

The 4th placed teams from Europe and the Pacific would then go into the Federation shield along with the team that didn’t come through the RLIF qualifier and also the 2nd placed team of the Atlantic cup. This has essentially 10 of the top team in the world playing in a meaningful tournament… why is it meaningful, the 6 nations teams and the two finalists of the Federation Shield get Automatic entry into the World Cup. So Teams right from the start, from the qualifiers of the regional tournaments have an incentive to put the best teams out there, World Cup qualification.

On top of that, however, going back to the RLIF Cup and Federation Shield,  I would have the two tournaments in the same place with the Federation Shield as an opener to the Main Game. So you get two full international games for the day! The 6 Nations I would have in two groups of 3 with everyone playing each other twice. This makes 6 games with the two top nations going through to the final. The Federation Shield would have one group  of 4 teams, also 6 games. The top 2 teams go into the final. So you would have the finals day also with two matches.

So that would be my next step for International Rugby League… expansion not contraction.

Daniel Andruczyk’s email: daniel@rugbyleagueionternationalscores.com
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12 Responses to “England Finally Post a Win”

  1. C.T.SANDERS says:

    About time and how come since the advent of summer rugby in 1996 why have the poms gone from bad to worse and roll on italy,france,ireland wales,scotland,lebanon,morocco,sebia,germany, malta,czech republic,ukraine,moldovia,latvia,estonia,norway,denmark,sweden,russia,tatarstan,georgia,azerbijian,khazahstan,usa,canada jamacia and japan.Give us a break from the hapless poms.

    • druzik says:

      But is that anything to do with summer rugby, the Poms were playing bad since 1972, why is nit all of a sudden summer that is bad. The French still play in the winter yet they have have had little improvement… is that because winter rungy is bad?

      Apples and oranges.

  2. Ashley says:

    I hope Garry Schofield has taught the South Africans a lot. Tough for league there. Anyone know what sort of work Schofield was doing with them?

    I like your ideas Druzik. The only trouble is that the hundreds of ideas thrown about by fans to help improve the international game will never happen because of the RLIF.

    We don’t even have a unified set of rules which is ridiculous. I’m certain if you look at union and soccer; people in Italy are playing the same rules at under 12s as they are in Australia at open age. I have noticed pretty much 3 different interpretations of the rules in this 4 nations.

    Then we have games without neutral refs. I don’t see how the game can seek real international profile with this rubbish going on.

    This 4 Nations should have taught the RLIF many lessons: specifically in: scheduling, neutral refs and the calls for pacific nations to get more games against the big guns.

    As someone pointed out on another forum part of the problem for international league is exposure. If it wasn’t for sites like this one and rugby league planet I would be almost completley in the dark about international league. So I think it’s great that you and others dedicate time and effort to league. It would be super fantastic if the RLIF awarded the efforts of many people worldwide who start clubs, volunteer, report stories, write stories etc by actually sorting out the international game.

    • druzik says:

      Not sure what GS is doing with the SA RL… it was an advisory role I thought. He is active on twitter so may as well ask him I suppose.

      Well I hope that with talking to the right people, being able to sell it properly maybe some ideas will get implemented.

      Agree on the rules, I have written about this a lot in the past. Same with Neutral referee’s.

      The Pac nations and European nations need more games in general… I know being in Oz that is what gets pushed, but why are the PI nations more important than Europe, or the Mid east or Nth America or South Africa?

      Yes Richard Cowley does a good job over on RLP with things, its the only way to go forward with exposure. Unfortunately most of the sites that try to make money only concentrate on the NRL and ESL.

      There would be no greater reward for someone like me where my website is not relevant anymnoer because the game is taken acre of by all nations and media and so everyone knows what is happening.

  3. C.T.SANDERS says:

    France didn’t improve because it was a numbers game,all the best french juniors went to rugby and many of the current all blacks originally came from rl as well.Until there’s a total cleanout of all the administration in australia,england and new zealand rl as a sport will continue to go nowhere.

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  5. Jon Alty says:

    The RLIF (read ARL/NRL) cannot be taken seriously. Tony Archer refereeing the 4 Nations final? And people wonder why international rugby league isn’t taken seriously!

    Are the players in South Africa rugby league players or union players keeping their hand in?

    Sad news, but I fear the worst for rugby league in Catalonia. The website hasn’t been updated since July and I’ve sent a couple of emails without reply. Speaking to a friend who played in the Catalan Championship last year, he told me that neither he or his club had heard anything about future competitions.

  6. C.T.SANDERS says:

    That’s sad jon because i was hoping for catalonia to come through but the trouble is that the people on the rlif aren’t interested in expansion.Time for them to go.

  7. dragons4eva says:

    Good blog Druzik,

  8. C.T.SANDERS says:

    Archer did a good job in the final as the referee.He’s the best referee in the world at the moment and i had no trouble with him refereeing the final at all.Silverwood wasn’t up to test football standard because sl is only park footie and in reguards to the new zealand referee cammy cams nephew and grandson of the geat ron he was out of his depth and a bloody disgrace yet png never ever moaned which made them the team of the tournament in my eyes.They were a credit to the game of rugby league,amateurs playing professionals and not overawed either.They played with plenty of jam tart.They were just wonderful colourful and entertaining after years and years in the international wilderness and about time we got an nrl francise in png.It’s long overdue in my book and roll on the commissioner to sort out the mess in australia rl.Time for new blood.

    • druzik says:

      A PNG NRL franchise would be a disaster for the sport there I feel. The money would not go into PNG or PNGRL.

      Archer… actually none of the refs were really up to standard. NRL has made refereeing very difficult. They need to come back in line with the international rules everyone else plays by.

  9. C.T.SANDERS says:

    Whatever

  10. C.T.SANDERS says:

    And what money from the warriors goes to the game back here and why aren’t the warriors paying transfer fees for the players so money can go back to the clubs, the district league and to the nzrl.

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